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Moses West designed a machine that makes endless water from the air

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson
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The question is not &quot;Why are we Not making more of these .. Every Community should have one&quot;. <br>⁣The statement is &quot;How do we make more of these .. So every Community can go and get one&quot;. (my addition)

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Heavyhand
Heavyhand
2 years ago

So if I’m not mistaken thunder foot from YouTube pretty much debunked this concept has been efficient. I’m sure it can be done and does work it’s just condensation. I would guess it just depends what’s more valuable to you at the time energy or water.

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Heavyhand
Heavyhand
2 years ago

Please tell get me wrong. i’m absolutely four advancements in technology like this. It just needs more work and for God sakes if the government could stop wasting all the fucking taxpayers money and put some into research and development for things like delivering water that would be nice

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TelepathicRapist
TelepathicRapist
2 years ago

I mean is this for real? This is why elon musk is such a successful fraud. I respect him trying to do a positive thing but there is nothing remarkable about what is being done here. This is a large scale dehumidifier that uses condensation. there is nothing remarkable here. It is also not proper to insist that this can produce water at the scale needed to overcome the demands or to imply that this is more efficient than a large scale desalination plant. I am not impressed, this is a bit of smoke and mirrors and this is only useful for a short term small scale solution on an emergency basis. There is a reason why they use wells, its because a water well is far less energy intensive. The military uses a truck/trailer that does this in the desert because it is impractical to drill a water well in some places due to the depth or because the implementation is only meant to be temporary. There is a reason why these haven't been implemented in any serious way.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

No one said that a single unit could provide enough water for a million people, but there are many many small to medium communities that could use almost entirely or substantially suppliment their current supplies with one, a few or many of these units...

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TelepathicRapist
TelepathicRapist
2 years ago

yest they could use it to supply thier water needs but it is too energy intensive to keep running without constant financing for energy. The areas that need it the most would also of course have poor power delivery meaning you then need a generator and need to truck in fuel periodically. then the complexity begins to boggle the mind and then thats why they typically go for just trucking in water or installing a well where possible.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@TelepathicRapist: Horse shit.... It's fucking dirt cheap to run and keep running - basically a small heat pump and a fan... I reckong your sounding very unhappy - what is going on for you?

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TelepathicRapist
TelepathicRapist
2 years ago

@Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson: I'm not trying to sound unhappy its just there seems to be a lot of disappointing falsehoods going around that defy science and I am disappointed some of these things are not fact checked before they make a story about them in the light of being somehow revolutionary. They keep deceiving the layman to such an extreme degree that tech stocks are now massively overvalued and they are disrupting the major US stock indexes by making them too weighted to the tech sector. A lot of it is pure fantasy. This equipment is very expensive to run offgrid and it is variable based on the humidity. If access to the power grid were available, then it would be cheaper, however, not cheaper then almost any other alternative except trucking in water and trucking in water may be cheaper than running this off grid. The units he is using look like the ones that are made for the military, I sure it works, but there are no specific details given as to why it is better that what has already been done before. I would ask if he has something groundbreaking here, does he have a patent? and of course the answer will be no, because its all hype and not that I know enough to prove it, but I am sure there are physical laws he is claiming to be able to violate if you really look into it

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ExperimentalGroup
ExperimentalGroup
2 years ago

Because Nestlé has been trying to privatize water. Like how the FUCK do you privatize something that is necessary to life? Anyone that proposes such a thing is not a friend of the human race. Understand that.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Well it's like this.... You can dig a well, and haul out water with a pump or a bucket, OR you can set up a water tank on a roof and harvest the water like that, or you can pay for someone to build, run and maintain the infrastructure, to deliver nice, clean and potable water to you, via the pipe. The water is free but the delivery isn't.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Basically it's a refrigerator / heat pump. IF you coll air down to say 2*C - all the moisture condenses out of it, and you get "fresh water" - and if you use the very cold air and water (in separate pipes / heat exchangers), to cool the incoming air - technically with proper insulation etc., it uses very little power to cool the air - as a cooling cycle.... ambient / average air temperature coming in meets very cold air and water going out = possible effiency around 95 - 98% - less some power for pumping heat out...

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TelepathicRapist
TelepathicRapist
2 years ago

@Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson: I am not sure how you are saying they are efficient devices, the places they are implemented are areas that are hard to get a well going, therefore they are usually arid areas or the desert and the relative humidity is low, usually making them extremely inefficient. This would be one of the last viable choices when ranked for how much energy input is required per gallon of water.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@TelepathicRapist: If you use the ALL or NOTHING approach.... But the majority of locations have fair to high humidity, fuck all people live in the bone dry deserts, and water can be piped....

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@TelepathicRapist: And effiency - if you almost freeze the air and water, and then use the very cold outgoing fluids, to chill and cool down the incoming fluid, if heavily insulated so fuck all heat is gained from the environment - then the process once started, requires very little power to keep it running.

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Mark E
Mark E
2 years ago

That's pretty cool!

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