TAOGYOW - How are you living life?

Those dark skin individuals, how many of them are sleeping in the same room? How many of them are forced to pay taxes as the carpenter is? How does the work they do compares to the job the carpenter does? In the building I live a couple years ago a paint job was given to a fucking Soviet instead of a local bloke because the Soviet would do it cheaper. I was against and did all I could to give it to the local bloke, including talking to him and telling him I would give him the job if he could get the the price closer. The job was poorly executed and as soon as got the money, he didn't care. Later the cracks started to show. He never came back to fix it. Next time, if I'm still around, I'm giving it to the people I know do a good work, fuck whatever the others say, it's my money too.

Tell you another. Few years ago a bloke I know was asked about a back yard renovation. He gave a quote of 10.000€. The owner then found a Soviet, again, who ended up doing it for 6.000€. 4.000€ is a lot of money. Less than a year later the bloke I know was called again because the job the Soviet did was literally falling apart. And obviously the Soviet was nowhere to be found. He gave a quote of 15.000€. The owner moaned that a year earlier was "only" 10k. The reply: Yes, it was. But now I have to remove what the other did first, the cost of labour is higher and the cost of the materials is also higher. You didn't want to pay 10k a year ago, now it will cost you 20k. Or you can get another Soviet.

When ppl say who will take care of you when your older, we will likely have robots doing all that shit. I'm sure you have heard about these cooking robots in Japan, they will become more affordable as time goes on, also imagine using a 3d printer as long as you have the materials, you will be able to create anything else you want. Given enough time, everything will drop in price and become the norm. Remember when texts and calls used to be limited based on your plan? Well that has become much more affordable to the point where some cell phone companies can afford to give you cell service as unlimited, that's the cheapest I have ever seen, however these days it's internet that's the higher value, but you can still get an unlimited internet plan with reduced speeds and still pay a dirt cheap price at the end of the day. All things that are super expensive will eventually drop in price the more we put our efforts into it.

@KEEPER: There's an old saying that goes "Heaven will come to HE who wait's". The amount of times I have struggled to do or get something, and the moment I give up and step back it has happened. so I sit back, I'm patient and bide my time and I'll be fucked if what you failed to get before will appear often cheaper and better than whatever the previous was? And people don't believe in Magic! lol! As for cooking robot's? well I actually enjoy cooking so one of those wont be on my list! lol!

I retired in 1993 after an industrial accident, I got a small pension, I do OK and boy is life far easier than all that daily commute or work CRAP. Soon I will receive my state pension to add to my small company pension and to be honest I will have money to burn as I'm so minimalist and happy it will be kind of dead money but useful for the odd treat? As for being MGTOW? The options are endless if you look for them? Best thing that ever happened to me.

@mrghoster: I also like cooking, but at some point maybe when I'm old and decrepit, having a robot cook my food clean my house and maybe even clean my ass LOL not even people that were rich in the early 1900s could get that kind of help, maybe kings and queens could afford that luxury. I guess my comment was meant for the younger men going their own way. I didn't even know you were that old. But then again you said you got in an accident, and I assume that might have happened at a younger age perhaps?

@KEEPER: if i can't wipe my own ass... I rather die in my sleep the day before.

@KEEPER: When I was younger the most Robotic thing I had was a Casio watch! lol! Actually I'm very young at heart and health. the accident was decades ago and never effected me, in fact it did me a really big favor next to MGTOW, it made me realize hoiw fucking broken this system was and that was back in 1993! lol! The truth is for many MEN young or old, WE have no one so we have to fend for ourselves, so a robot or two wouldn't go a miss I guess? i have a great day my friend!

@The Man Inside: lol yeah I get ya, I just wrote that in to be funny even though it could be a thing one day. I know they have those kind that spray water, and those have existed for decades lol.

@KEEPER: We all assume we'll have technology accessible to us in the future. My intention is to not have any modern technology ruling my life. Literally. I'm a qualified technician in a field everyone depends on today, I know how to get things working. I also know how easy it is to make it go away, or control it so people do exactly what the elites want people to do. I don't need an android phone to live, I don't need LED lights to live, I don't need toilet paper to live. I need water, air and food. Shelter is secondary but essential. Last year on a trip (camping) I had it timed so perfect that if I didn't carry a flashlight, it wouldn't have been a problem. That's how I want to be able to live, and how people lived for thousands of years. I do appreciate my modern comforts, my motorcycles, my fancy sports car, but if it ends, it ends.

@KEEPER: give you an example. "They" have been testing water supply. Shutting this or that place for x amount of hours during, say Friday, and area A on Monday for an afternoon, and so on. It has been done. How easy would it be to control the population just with the water network? Now, electricity. Do you keep your monthly supplies frozen? Heating, be it by gas (butane or other), diesel or anything other than wood? What would the population do if the toilet paper supply was effectively reduced and the water too? I know how to use what nature offers me to wipe me ass. How many people would go crazy just for that? Taking a shit and no water nor paper to clean themselves?

@mrghoster: in the 80's I had an actual robot. So advanced it would move on wheels and make noises... How useful! Later in life I learned to build and programme robotic objects, although is something I haven't done for a long time. It is a field that sucks you in with an intensity I would be in bed thinking about which commands would I need to rewrite the next day to achieve what I wanted to do. Putting the hardware together is another challenge, but this days... you just buy it from China. Kits and shit. Having to route the wires, calibrate the sensors and cameras, measure, cut and all that, it's lost for the most part. It's a hobby, for commercial business, just get everything from China pre assembled and take your share of the profits.

@The Man Inside: also I'm well aware that day may never come, there's also a possibility will just collapse anyway and everyone will have to adjust to the new life why there's no electricity no clean water no no internet none of our modern provisions and Comforts will exist, I may not be an expert when it comes to camping, well I have Captain My Life oh, I know how to do without technology, although I do understand when it comes to all your older age and if you didn't have access to certain Technologies and Medicine that's life can be much harder and we'll probably end a lot quicker, I'm sure it's possible to live a somewhat full life camping, believe it or not though our technology actually prolongs our life in some cases. Anyway I've been trying to get men to get off the grid before that shit hits the fan, as a Justin case scenario, cuz even I know that the robots for us in the future may not come, but I have been advocating for off-grid living for a while now, I'm no expert at off-grid Living, but I absolutely believe it's important 4 the people who want to survive this shit to prepare for it. Because we don't know what's going to happen, skip condemned today and a whole lot of people aren't going to be ready for it, most people are too ignorant to prepare, but then again there's a possibility we won't collapse for very long and we'll just be ruled by some other country who wants to control us of course they'll Usher and themselves as being Our Saviors even if they were the cause or at least a part of it. I see several possible situations or outcomes to a collapse scenario. Basically, prepare for the worst but hope for the best, so that you will always have a way out, most people want to do this even when they have the provisions to do so.

@The Man Inside: sorry for all the typos dude, I'm using my cell phone. Right now I don't have access to the computer.

@KEEPER: the collapse of the Roman empire, with it's technology which was incredibly advanced, drove the most advanced civilisation at the time into a period of scarcity that only lasted almost 2.000 years. There was a long period called the dark ages, self explanatory. But it's difficult this time, we're smarter, that won't happen to us. Romans had plumbing... They had advanced construction techniques... They had advanced medicine... They had an organised political system... Looking at it objectively, the only two things we have they didn't have is a comprehension of thermodynamics, which allowed things like the internal combustion engine and bombs, and electronics, which allowed more destructive bombs and absolute control over the population. Abusive control, such as John Deer deliberately sabotaging their products so farmers can be exploited. This OTA "updates" for cars... It means your car can be disabled at any time without your consent. It's not by accident "they" don't want you to have your own means of transportation. "They" want you to rely on some company for all of your needs. And we fell for it. Water, electricity, transportation, clothing, bread... I have a bicycle that may become my only usable transportation in the future.

@KEEPER: mate, I don't care about that, we all do it. I only messed with you the other day because it changed the meaning of what you said, completely. :-D