the real problem with mgtow.mp4

Form your own group with your own culture with your rules. There people can contribute. Most of society is not going to change. They still like cultural Marxism.

I understand your perspective. I agree to a certain degree. But I believe the plan of mgtow was to walk away to essentially wait until Society collapses. So that we can rebuild. Because that's how the cycle works this is all a cycle maybe it's not the exact same every time but it's still a cycle that repeats itself

its fun to listen to the least knowledgeable pontificate the most....... he never follows any thought he expresses to any logical conclusion .......... mgtow is a philosophy .......... putz.

Youre talking through your arse. How do you know that most MGTOW just descend into hedonism?>How many MGTOW do you know out of how many in total?I would have thought this was simple enough even for you to grasp: socialists and other retards gave everybody the vote. All the losers plus all the women now outnumber the only people who actually earn ( men ) and vote for the poxy socialists who promise them free stuff. But these poxy politicians dont have anything so they first steal it off men. Nice one and we call it democracy.
So far so bad. But now these entitled women who have the socialist politicians up they're vaginas, create more and more insane feminist laws. Your Family Court is a male-rape industry - are you fucking blind? MGTOW is not where men join some hedonistic male organisation, it's a philosophy of self-protection from Clown World.
The only way you will ever cure America, or make it great again, is to only give the vote to those with skin in the game: net taxpayers. Women sponging off ex-husbands, single slut-mothers on welfare and anyone else on welfare DONT get the luxury of a vote.
Problem solved. Democracy is Cancer; bring back Patriarchy and MERITOCRACY.

You're too optimistic that anything will ever get done. That's not to say that optimism is a bad thing, but you need some rational reasonability to back it up. Save who you care about, and forget those who refuse help.
Also, consider looking into Freemasonry